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	<description>Lost soul, lost road, lost words.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-29013</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"As far as low income housing..the only way to avoid it is to move to an older, high-priced, established area that was created before that mandate." Not true. There were multiple areas in other districts to put the last 3 low income housing projects. The other district "didn't want them." N Natomas is the city stepchild.AND we pay extra taxes for cops and have less than any other part of the city.  Woo hoo! :) I know, I know, if I don't like it move. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As far as low income housing..the only way to avoid it is to move to an older, high-priced, established area that was created before that mandate.&#8221; Not true. There were multiple areas in other districts to put the last 3 low income housing projects. The other district &#8220;didn&#8217;t want them.&#8221; N Natomas is the city stepchild.AND we pay extra taxes for cops and have less than any other part of the city.  Woo hoo! <img src='http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I know, I know, if I don&#8217;t like it move. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Muckdog</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28988</link>
		<dc:creator>Muckdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think light rail to the airport makes sense, and going through Natomas is a no brainer.

Of course, the problem with light rail is that RT doesn't enforce tickets.  For example, in the Bay Area, BART terminals have turnstiles and guards.  You can't even board without a ticket.  Same for the Las Vegas monorail.  Her in Sacramento, you can easily just walk on a train without a ticket.

That's where the rif-raf comes from.

As far as low income housing, it's now a CA mandate to build it everywhere.  So the only way to avoid it is to move to an older, high-priced, established area that was created before that mandate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think light rail to the airport makes sense, and going through Natomas is a no brainer.</p>
<p>Of course, the problem with light rail is that RT doesn&#8217;t enforce tickets.  For example, in the Bay Area, BART terminals have turnstiles and guards.  You can&#8217;t even board without a ticket.  Same for the Las Vegas monorail.  Her in Sacramento, you can easily just walk on a train without a ticket.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where the rif-raf comes from.</p>
<p>As far as low income housing, it&#8217;s now a CA mandate to build it everywhere.  So the only way to avoid it is to move to an older, high-priced, established area that was created before that mandate.</p>
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		<title>By: wburg</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28951</link>
		<dc:creator>wburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: The story of Natomas is the story of pretty much every suburb. Suburbs are quite possibly the ultimate disposable consumer product: they are designed to be quickly used and discarded by successive waves of residents, starting with the wealthy and working downward from there. 

All in-city suburbs have a political genesis, they are intended to make money for developers (who turn cheap farmland into expensive residential land) while development fees let cities maintain services without raising taxes. It's called the "growth machine thesis."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: The story of Natomas is the story of pretty much every suburb. Suburbs are quite possibly the ultimate disposable consumer product: they are designed to be quickly used and discarded by successive waves of residents, starting with the wealthy and working downward from there. </p>
<p>All in-city suburbs have a political genesis, they are intended to make money for developers (who turn cheap farmland into expensive residential land) while development fees let cities maintain services without raising taxes. It&#8217;s called the &#8220;growth machine thesis.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Uneasy Rhetoric</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28945</link>
		<dc:creator>Uneasy Rhetoric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe -- don't worry about expressing yourself here.  I welcome any opinion about Sacramento, even if it differs from my own (but I reserve the right to be snarky about it!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe &#8212; don&#8217;t worry about expressing yourself here.  I welcome any opinion about Sacramento, even if it differs from my own (but I reserve the right to be snarky about it!).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sacramento</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28943</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, as for RT expansion to North Natomas, residents will NEVER allow that to happen. We are only 7 min to downtown and 10 min to the airport. We don't need RT. The whole area is already crawling with thugs right now and bringing RT here would turn North Natomas into Rancho overnight. Won't happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, as for RT expansion to North Natomas, residents will NEVER allow that to happen. We are only 7 min to downtown and 10 min to the airport. We don&#8217;t need RT. The whole area is already crawling with thugs right now and bringing RT here would turn North Natomas into Rancho overnight. Won&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sacramento</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28942</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said Natomas was a bad idea. I guess you may have inferred that from my "Rice Paddies for Portland" story since my point wasn't explicit.  That's fine, I don't expect everyone to get everything I write. I am not a professional journalist by any means. 

My point was that North Natomas has a politically-oriented genesis, and now that it is built out, and filling the coffers at city hall, the city government doesn't give a crap about it. But don't believe me, come see for yourself. 

When I moved here in 2001 it was extremely promising. I saw the master plan and it consisted primarily of homes, parks, and commensurate and office space. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, knew how many high density homes, section 8 apartments, and condos were planned for the area. We didn't find out until the foundations were going down.

Maybe I should have attended some planning meetings. Maybe I should have demanded to know what was going in across the street in that big empty lot from my home. Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Too late now. I learned an extraordinary lesson out of this. And the experience has motivated me to help foster much needed change.

I love Natomas, and I will go down fighting for it. 

Thanks for allowing me to express myself here. Feedback always appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said Natomas was a bad idea. I guess you may have inferred that from my &#8220;Rice Paddies for Portland&#8221; story since my point wasn&#8217;t explicit.  That&#8217;s fine, I don&#8217;t expect everyone to get everything I write. I am not a professional journalist by any means. </p>
<p>My point was that North Natomas has a politically-oriented genesis, and now that it is built out, and filling the coffers at city hall, the city government doesn&#8217;t give a crap about it. But don&#8217;t believe me, come see for yourself. </p>
<p>When I moved here in 2001 it was extremely promising. I saw the master plan and it consisted primarily of homes, parks, and commensurate and office space. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE, knew how many high density homes, section 8 apartments, and condos were planned for the area. We didn&#8217;t find out until the foundations were going down.</p>
<p>Maybe I should have attended some planning meetings. Maybe I should have demanded to know what was going in across the street in that big empty lot from my home. Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Too late now. I learned an extraordinary lesson out of this. And the experience has motivated me to help foster much needed change.</p>
<p>I love Natomas, and I will go down fighting for it. </p>
<p>Thanks for allowing me to express myself here. Feedback always appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: wburg</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28940</link>
		<dc:creator>wburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm...I recall that Joe Sacramento wrote a rather scathing blog post about what a bad idea Natomas was...but he lives there?

Hm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hm&#8230;I recall that Joe Sacramento wrote a rather scathing blog post about what a bad idea Natomas was&#8230;but he lives there?</p>
<p>Hm.</p>
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		<title>By: uneasy rhetoric</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28935</link>
		<dc:creator>uneasy rhetoric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, right.  Because "thugs" don't own cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, right.  Because &#8220;thugs&#8221; don&#8217;t own cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Sacramento</title>
		<link>http://www.uneasyrhetoric.net/2008/05/14/rt-drops-the-ball/#comment-28933</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No RT for Natomas please. We have enough thug life here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No RT for Natomas please. We have enough thug life here.</p>
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